Former FBI Special Agent Tom O’Connor spent 20-plus years tracking domestic extremism. In this week’s podcast, he tells Co-host Jeanne Meserve he’s worried that extremist rightwing rhetoric and disinformation about the 2020 election will ignite another Timothy McVeigh to carry out a spectacular terrorist attack.

At the top of the show, I talk with veteran national security journalist William Arkin about his discovery of a vast, 60,000-strong “secret army” deployed by the Pentagon to disguise and carry out clandestine intelligence and special forces missions around the globe.

Hope you’ll tune in. Listen to it here (or wherever you get your podcasts).