Listen in as Jeanne Meserve talks with top former FBI national security official Jay Tabb about the challenges of dealing with home-grown American terrorists—a problem without a good solution right now.

At the top of the show, Nicholas Eftimiades, a top former Defense Intelligence Agency expert on Chinese espionage, dismisses reports that Beijing’s top counterspy defected to the US—but asserts that China has “many” moles in U.S. intelligence.

It’s all in this week’s SpyTalk podcast, available at Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen in—and please do tell us what you think.

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