In this third edition of the SpyTalk podcast, Mark Zaid, a leading lawyer for U.S. personnel who’ve been subjected to mysterious directed-energy attacks, wonders aloud to co-host Jeanne Meserve about a government cover-up.

Then Ronen Bergman, author of Rise Up and Kill, a groundbreaking book on Israeli assassination operations, talks with me about the effect of Mossad’s hits on Iran’s nuclear scientists and uranium facilities.

Last but hardly least, Jeanne talks at length with technology venture capitalist Gilman Louie about his work with the CIA and the perils of losing the race on artificial intelligence to America’s adversaries.

Tune in and listen here, or wherever you get your podcasts.